Saturday, 31 March 2012

Secular Café: Nationalization

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Nationalization
Apr 1st 2012, 01:42

This may be another of my [in]famous stoooopid questions, so buckle up. :D

I read about countries (usually Latin American) nationalizing this or that industry, which to my fuzzy mind means the government has taken over running it, and the profits aren't going to fat corporate owners - well, maybe that part is fuzzier than the rest. But anyway....

And it occurred to me that the only way we're ever going to get true one-payer medicine here in the US, comparable to other truly civilized countries' systems, is if the whole health care system is nationalized. But then I wondered, is that even possible here? Or would such an action be unconstitutional or something?

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Secular Café: France may extradite Rwandan suspect

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France may extradite Rwandan suspect
Mar 31st 2012, 23:03

France has a history of sheltering criminals from the Rwandan genocide. This would be a first (if it actually happens).

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17567301

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Secular Café: Supervising Priest Goes on Trial in Abuse Case

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Supervising Priest Goes on Trial in Abuse Case
Mar 31st 2012, 15:55

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The landmark trial of a senior official of the Philadelphia Archdiocese who is accused of shielding priests who sexually abused children and reassigning them to unwary parishes began on Monday with prosecutors charging that the official "paid lip service to child protection and protected the church at all costs."

The defendant, Msgr. William J. Lynn, 61, is the first Roman Catholic supervisor in the country to be tried on felony charges of endangering children and conspiracy — not on allegations that he molested children himself, but that he protected suspect priests and reassigned them to jobs where they continued to rape, grope or otherwise abuse boys and girls.

One of Monsignor Lynn's lines of defense was indicated in an opening statement when his lawyers suggested that he had acted responsibly and reported allegations of abuse to higher officials, including a recently deceased cardinal.

The trial is a milestone, legal experts said, in the legal battles lasting decades over sex abuse by priests. For years, many Catholic dioceses have been battered by civil suits seeking monetary damages for failing to stop errant priests. More recently, prosecutors have brought criminal charges against abusers.

"What has not happened up to now is for church officials to be held criminally accountable," said Timothy D. Lytton, a professor of law at the Albany Law School and an expert on Catholic abuse cases.

cont...
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/27/us...phia.html?_r=1

I so hope this chap goes to prison if found guilty; I really, really, hope that he's asked repeatedly about what priests told him in confession - could be a two birds with one stone situation.

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Secular Café: Xian Militia Group Wins Big In Domestic Terrorism Case

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Xian Militia Group Wins Big In Domestic Terrorism Case
Mar 31st 2012, 12:18

http://www.care2.com/causes/loss-for...itia-case.html

Scary, if it encourages other militias to act like this lot....

Quote:

Despite a victory in the prosecution of a Mississippi murder under a new federal hate crime statute, the Department of Justice lost a high profile case in Michigan against the Hutaree militia.


Last week a federal judge dismissed a majority of the government's case against the Christian militia holding that the heated rhetoric against law enforcement employed by the Hutaree's leader David Stone Jr. and his son Joshua did not amount to a specific plot and that the evidence against the other members of the militia was weak.


Both David and Joshua Stone plead guilty to possessing illegal machine guns. They both face a maximum sentence of 10 years in prison and a fine up to $250,000. Based on their felony convictions, the Stones will never be allowed to possess firearms again.


The plea marks the end of a rocky road for this domestic terrorism prosecution. The case started after he FBI raided individuals in Michigan, Ohio and Indiana alleging the group was preparing to carry out a series of bombing attacks in a larger plot to kill police officers. The group was then going to follow up with additional bombings during the funeral processions of those slain officers. The goal of the attacks, according to the FBI was to incite nationwide anti-government violence.


The allegations were spectacular and the raids executed early in the stage of the purported conspiracy. Perhaps too early.


The case faced bumps from the beginning as U.S. District Judge Victoria A. Roberts said, basically, that the individuals charged lacked the sophistication, skills, and means necessary to carry out the acts charged. This plea seems to support Judge Roberts' initial skepticism.


Which leads to a different problem. No doubt this failed prosecution will only embolden other hard-right anti-government militias. And with the Rep. Ron Paul (R) presidential campaign stagnant and an election around the corner, emboldening the militias could prove to be a very dangerous thing.

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Secular Café: Pink Slime Maker Forced To Close 3 Out Of 4 Plants

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Pink Slime Maker Forced To Close 3 Out Of 4 Plants
Mar 31st 2012, 11:29

http://www.care2.com/causes/care2-su...-4-plants.html

I didn't know this stuff existed....never mind being served up in McDs, BK, taco Bell.....and schools! While I feel for the fired employees, I welcome the absence of this foul product....

Quote:

Great news!
The campaign against pink slime is achieving outstanding success. First the fast-food restaurants like McDonalds, Taco Bell and Burger King decided against using it, then came the decision by the USDA to give schools the option of not using it in their school lunches, and finally a whole group of supermarkets also announced they were forsaking the additive.
Products that contain the pink slime include fresh retail ground beef, low-fat hot dogs, lunch meats, beef sticks, pepperoni, frozen entrees, meatballs and canned foods.


The Shunning Of Pink Slime

And guess what? With pink slime becoming universally shunned, the makers of this unappetizing industrialized food product are suffering financially. As a result the company that makes pink slime suspended operations Monday at three of four plants where the beef ingredient is made, saying officials would work to address recent public concern about the product.


Beef Products Inc. will suspend operations at plants in Amarillo, Texas; Garden City, Kansas; and Waterloo, Iowa. The company's plant at its headquarters in Dakota Dunes, South Dakota, will continue operations.


In case you've missed the recent uproar about this food product, "pink slime" is used to describe a ground-up combination of beef scraps, cow connective tissues and other beef trimmings that are treated with ammonium hydroxide to kill pathogens like salmonella and E. coli. It's then blended into meat products like ground beef and hamburger patties.


The End Of 900,000 Pounds Of Pink Slime A Day


So now you know why over 11,000 Care2 members have so far signed our petition telling the US Department of Agriculture (USDA) to stop buying pink slime for use in school lunches.


About 200 employees at each of the three plants will get full salary and benefits for 60 days during the suspension. The plant in Amarillo produced about 200,000 pounds a day, while the Kansas and Iowa plants each produced about 350,000 pounds a day.


That's a whole lot of pink slime – good riddance.


And thank you to the over 11,000 activists who have so far signed the Care2 petition!

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Secular Café: Bradford by-election

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Bradford by-election
Mar 31st 2012, 10:43

The Gorgeous George Effect or the sign of changes ahead?

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Friday, 30 March 2012

Secular Café: The future of Republican health care

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The future of Republican health care
Mar 30th 2012, 21:38

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngu...+Pharyngula%29

Words fail me...

Quote:

Here's how it's going to work. You're a 68 year old black man with a serious heart condition, and a medic alert bracelet, just in case. You accidentally press it one night.


Don't expect an ambulance with EMTs. The police will come to your door and demand admission.


You will say, "Please leave me alone. I'm 68 with a heart condition. Why are you doing this to me? Can you please leave me alone?"


The police will tell you they don't give a fuck. They will call you a nigger. They will force open the door as much as the chain allows.


They will taser you. You're a 68 year old man with a heart condition, remember?


They will shoot you with a beanbag shotgun.


Then, they'll shoot you dead with live ammo.


Sounds like some grim dystopian fantasy, doesn't it? Nah, that could never happen. In what insane world would police, rather than doctors, respond to a medical alert, and treat it with deadly gunfire rather than medicine?


It happened in America, in White Plains, NY, last November. It happened to Kenneth Chamberlain, Sr.


What the hell is wrong with this country?

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Secular Café: so, did santorum make a terrible slip here, or what?

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so, did santorum make a terrible slip here, or what?
Mar 30th 2012, 17:38

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Secular Café: The Potato Movement: Greeks Helping Each Other in Hard Times

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The Potato Movement: Greeks Helping Each Other in Hard Times
Mar 30th 2012, 12:42

http://www.care2.com/causes/the-pota...mes-video.html


People adapting to desperate times....interestingly be effectively avoiding the problems - going outside the system. I wonder if this could also be the roots of something bigger...a rejection of forced, artificial globalism.......

Quote:

On Friday, March 30, European finance ministers are meeting to discuss increasing the European Financial Stability Facility (EFSF), the rescue fund for nations that have needed bailouts on finding themselves unable to pay massive debts, all while their economies have imploded. Those countries include Spain, which is on a general strike about labor reforms today, Ireland, Portugal and Greece, where austerity measures have crippled an economy in its fifth year of recession.
This video (via When the Crisis Hits the Fan) satirizes how desperate Greeks have become to get a job.


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With unemployment at 21 percent and salary and wage cuts rampant — many Greeks are making at least 30 percent less than they did before the economic crisis — 1 in 11 people in Athens has been standing in line at a soup kitchen, says the Guardian. Merchants are responding to the reality of customers with considerably less cash by lowering their prices and staying open 24 hours. The Greek daily Kathimerini reports that more than a few neighborhood shops and cafés in Athens have begun to charge one euro (about $1.32) or half or less a euro for coffee and tea and a hot dog. That may not sound like the hugest bargain but prices are more in the range of 3 or 4 euros (about $4 – 5.30) for a cup of coffee at other places.
To the north in Thessaloniki, Greece's second-largest city, people have been buying potatoes and other staples directly from farmers. This producer-to-consumer system has become so popular that it has spread across Greece, with farmers selling onions, rice, flour, olives and (so far) more than 4,000 Easter lambs. Indeed, town halls, says the Guardian, announce the sales and farmers, after learning how much people will buy, appear with 25-ton trucks. Christos Kamenides, professor of agricultural marketing at Thessaloniki University, says that such a "unified co-operative" will help to bring bring consumers and producers together and could eventually serve as an ecomomic model:


A couple of hours south, in the port of Volos, an alternative economic model is already up and running. More than 800 townsfolk have signed up for a local currency scheme called TEMs. Teachers, doctors, babysitters, a bookkeeper, farmers and smallholders, a decorator, hairdresser, seamstress and a lawyer are among the members. In the past couple of weeks Theodoros Mavridis, a local electrician, has not had to pay a euro for his eggs, tsipourou (the local brandy), fruit, olives, olive oil, jam, soap, and help in filling out his tax return.


The Guardian also describes the National Theatre of Northern Greece's plans to offer a season of plays that will be paid for with food which will then to be distributed to charities and welfare groups in Thessaloniki. People in Athens have set up groups to offer free tutoring to help students including those with disabilities like dyslexia and to help distribute discarded bread from restaurants and bakeries to welfare groups.
As Maria Choupis, a founding member of the TEM in Volos, says, after intense outrage at politicians, Greek citizens are "moving beyond anger" and coming together.

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Secular Café: Obama Will Turn You Gay?

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Obama Will Turn You Gay?
Mar 30th 2012, 12:15

http://www.care2.com/causes/obama-wi...n-you-gay.html

If you made this up, no-one would believe you...and yet here it is for real (for GoP values of real)....

Quote:

This just in: Obama's radical left-wing agenda is worse than we feared. In fact, his is the "most radical, ideologically-driven administration in American history." Not only is he attacking religious freedom by asking employers to cover women's hormonal birth control (you know, the way they already cover Viagra), but if Obamacare is allowed to stand, every man, woman, and child in America will be turned gay.
You heard it here first, folks. Straight from the mouth of right wing activist Mat Staver on VCY America's Crosstalk last week. Here's the full quote:


What we have is a president and an administration that he has gathered that is the most radical, ideologically-driven administration in American history and the ideology is very much pro-abortion and pro-homosexual rights and that trumps everything, it seems to trump the economy, it trumps national security. Of all the myriad of things that the president and the administration could be working on to make America a better place, to bring more jobs and so forth, they are working on these kinds of micromanagement things to push a very radical agenda that is anti-life and anti-liberty. It's to not just satisfy the radical fringe that supports this administration but it is to satisfy the ideology that comes with this administration, it is part and parcel of what they believe and who they are. In terms of where the end is, nothing should shock anybody at this stage in terms of where this will be going. It is in-your-face forced abortion funding, in-your-face forced homosexuality and in-your-face a deconstruction of moral principles.


Forced homosexuality? Really? If you'd like to torture yourself with a full hour of insight into the frightening alternate universe Staver inhabits, you can do so on the Crosstalk website.

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Thursday, 29 March 2012

Secular Café: Trust in Science Among Conservatives.

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Trust in Science Among Conservatives.
Mar 30th 2012, 02:13

Drops even among the educated ones...
link

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Conservatives, particularly those with college educations, have become dramatically more skeptical of science over the past four decades, according to a study published in the April issue of the American Sociological Review. Fewer than 35 percent of conservatives say they have a "great deal" of trust in the scientific community now, compared to nearly half in 1974.

"The scientific community ... has been concerned about this growing distrust in the public with science. And what I found in the study is basically that's really not the problem. The growing distrust of science is entirely focused in two groups—conservatives and people who frequently attend church," says the study's author, University of North Carolina postdoctoral fellow Gordon Gauchat.
...
Previous studies have shown that climate change, the widely-accepted theory that man-made carbon emissions are causing the world to grow warmer, is very unpopular among conservatives, and especially white conservative males. In 2008, half of all conservatives believed in climate change. By 2010, only a third did, compared to more than 70 percent of liberals, according to a Gallup poll.

The issue has caused a bit of a hubbub in the Republican primary. Failed candidate Jon Huntsman wrote in August, "To be clear. I believe in evolution and trust scientists on global warming. Call me crazy," before later walking that back and saying there were still doubts. Newt Gingrich has been pounded repeatedly by rival Rick Santorum—who says global warming is a "hoax"—for appearing in an anti-climate change ad with Nancy Pelosi in 2006. (He's since said there is evidence "on both sides of the issue.") And Mitt Romney says he believes the Earth is getting warmer, but isn't sure how much humans are contributing to that.
:bang:

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Wednesday, 28 March 2012

Secular Café: Protection welfarism?

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Protection welfarism?
Mar 29th 2012, 05:33

I've often seen arguments against social programs and welfare statism, and I will concede that governments can't do everything and that it's not worth it for them to try.

But there's something that can be constructed as a social program, as welfare statism, that's not often described as that: government protection. That is, protection by government military and police forces. In fact, one can make lots of anti-welfare-state arguments against government military and police forces.
  • Governments can never do anything right. Private sector good, public sector bad. Thus, vigilantes and volunteer militias and hired guards and mercenaries can do better than government military and police forces.
  • Governments that run military and police forces are being very insulting and condescending, presuming that people are incapable of defending themselves, and presuming that politicians and bureaucrats know better than you do about how to defend you.
  • Government military and police forces interfere with the protection market, crowding out entrepreneurs who could do better with guard and mercenary companies.
  • Government military and police forces have coercion as their business, and nothing is legitimate unless it is voluntary.
  • Governments can disregard laws and constitutions and the like and use force on anyone they don't like with impunity, therefore, governments must be disarmed.
  • Military atrocities and police brutality prove that government military and police forces cannot be trusted.
  • Government military and police forces help governments collect taxes, which are an absolutely intolerable imposition.
  • Government military and police forces encourage laziness and dependence on government, because they make people feel that they don't have to protect themselves.
  • Government military and police forces are about taking money from people willing to protect themselves and rewarding those who are too lazy to protect themselves.
  • In the Good Old Days, everybody protected themselves because governments recognized that everybody had to protect themselves. We must return to those Good Old Days.
  • All of you have a much stronger motive to defend yourselves than the government does, so we ought to put your defense in the hands with those with the strongest motive to defend you -- you yourselves.
In fairness to many right-wingers, they half-recognize much of what I am talking about by loving guns and sometimes by organizing militias. But where are the gun lovers who advocate disbanding military and police forces because their guns are all that's necessary?

A lot of Americans gripe about American armed forces protecting nations like European ones and Japan, on the ground that those nations are affluent enough to afford big military forces. However, that could be politically difficult. After World Wars I and II, many people wanted a pacifist Germany, and that's what they got.

Secret Service code names for Romney and Santorum revealed: Javelin and Petrus | The Ticket - Yahoo! News
Quote:

While GOP rivals Romney, Santorum and Gingrich enjoy Secret Service protection, Ron Paul told Jay Leno on Tuesday that he wouldn't take the security offer.

"It's a form of welfare, having the taxpayers take care of somebody and I'm an ordinary citizen," Paul said. "I should pay for my own protection."
I think that he deserves a lot of respect for saying that.

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Secular Café: Toulouse gunman's father 'to sue France'

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Toulouse gunman's father 'to sue France'
Mar 28th 2012, 21:48

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17544154

WTF.....

Quote:

The father of Toulouse gunman Mohamed Merah has hired an Algerian lawyer to sue French special police over his son's death, French media report.

Mohamed Merah, 23, killed seven people, including three children, in southern France before he was shot dead in a siege at his home last week.

Algiers-based lawyer Zahia Mokhtari told French media Mohamed Benalal Merah considered his son had been murdered.

Mr Merah's plan to sue the state drew criticism from French politicians.

"If I were the father of such a monster, I would shut my mouth in shame," French Foreign Minister Alain Juppe said on Tuesday.
'No al-Qaeda links'

Ms Mokhtari told the AFP news agency that a convention signed between France and Algeria allows lawyers to pursue cases in both countries.

"Mr [Mohamed Benalal] Merah came to our office in Algiers yesterday [Tuesday] to formally ask us to sue the French security services for not having followed procedure during the attempt to arrest Mohamed Merah and his murder," Ms Mokhtari told AFP.

Mohamed Merah died in a police assault on his flat in Toulouse on 22 March after a 32-hour siege. He had killed three soldiers in two separate attacks before shooting dead three children and a teacher at a Jewish school.

Merah, born in France of Algerian descent, is said to have told police he wanted to avenge Palestinian children and to attack the French army because of its foreign interventions.

His half-brother in Algeria, Rachid Merah, said Mohamed had been manipulated by the French intelligence services and did not have any ties to al-Qaeda.

"I deny that formally and I have doubts that he had any link with al-Qaeda or Taliban or any terrorist organisation in the world. And the fact that proves it is that France killed him before he could speak in a trial, while they could get him alive," Rachid Merah said.

Merah's family want to bury him in Algeria but the Algerian authorities have not formally granted their request.

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Secular Café: Republican "Wisdom"

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Republican "Wisdom"
Mar 28th 2012, 20:53
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Secular Café: Supreme Gods Hear Health Reform Mandate Arguments

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Supreme Gods Hear Health Reform Mandate Arguments
Mar 28th 2012, 17:21

Our nine Supreme beings are examining the latest legal tribute laid before them and are already expressing some displeasure with their worshipper's offerings.

Until a few days ago I assumed a full endorsement of the health care act was a given...now I am not so sure. As usual, the focus is on the Supreme Kennedy and this demi-god does not seem pleased with the arguments of the Obamacare tribute bearers.

Quote:

Roberts, Alito, Scalia, and Kennedy. Based on today's argument, it looks like all four of those Justices accepted the basic framing of the case offered by the challengers to the mandate. In particular, they all seem to accept that a legal requirement of action is quite different from a legal requirement regulating action, and that therefore the expansive Commerce Clause precedents like Raich did not apply to this case. That was the key move Randy Barnett introduced...
http://volokh.com/2012/03/28/four-th...date-argument/

Quote:

Justice Kennedy's skepticism of the individual mandate, a provision of the legislation requiring almost every uninsured American to purchase health insurance or pay a penalty, did not end there.

A few minutes later, he echoed the criticism lodged at the mandate by its opponents, who have argued that by requiring people to purchase insurance under the threat of a penalty, Congress breached its powers under the Constitution's commerce clause by forcing people to enter into commerce. "[W]hen you are changing the relation of the individual to the government in this… unique way," Justice Kennedy asked the government's counselor, "do you not have a heavy burden of justification to show authorization under the Constitution?"

More than half-way through Verrilli's question-and-answer session, Justice Kennedy reiterated his concern over the government's requirement of "the individual to do an affirmative act." The unprecedented use of federal power, the justice continued, "changes the relationship of the Federal Government to the individual in [a] very fundamental way."

While Justice Clarence Thomas maintained his usual silence during oral arguments, the other conservative justices also pounced on Verrilli, with Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. lodging the softest queries.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelb...key-provision/

Let us hope that Kennedy has the courage of his seeming conviction...

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Secular Café: Google under fire in UK MPs' report into privacy

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Google under fire in UK MPs' report into privacy
Mar 28th 2012, 17:29

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-17523020

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An influential group of UK lawmakers has called on Google to introduce an algorithm to remove search links found to be in breach of privacy - or face legislation to force it to do so.

It follows complaints from ex-Formula One boss Max Mosley about the difficulty he faced in getting a video removed from the internet.

The search giant argued it was not its job to monitor net content.

The cross-party committee said this argument was "totally unconvincing".

The report by a committee of MPs and peers was commissioned by the government to look into privacy and free speech issues after a series of high profile super-injunctions were made public last year.

Celebrities including Ryan Giggs found that gagging orders against newspapers were routinely flouted online. In Mr Giggs' case, the details of his super-injunction were mentioned at least 75,000 times on Twitter, the committee said.

Its report said that online firms needed to be brought in line with offline media in such cases.

cont...

http://www.publications.parliament.u...nj/273/273.pdf the report.

I wonder how long it would take, if this system were put in place, for it to be abused by the government; my guess would be that the time could be measured in minutes. I'm not the trusting sort...

If I were Google, and they forced me to do this, I would put a link right on the front page listing the URLs that had been blocked and the reasons why, obviously not naming names.

What is it with governments and trying to mess about with the internet recently :dunno:

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Secular Café: Amen Averse: Record Number of Americans Want Less Religion in Politics

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Amen Averse: Record Number of Americans Want Less Religion in Politics
Mar 28th 2012, 10:13

http://www.secularnewsdaily.com/2012...+News+Daily%29

Some good news.....

Quote:

It seems that Americans have heard just about enough about religion in political campaigns.

A new survey released by the Pew Forum On Religion & Public Life found that 38 percent of Americans said politicians have spent too much time expressing their religious faith and praying. That's up from 2010, when 29 percent of Americans said there was too much religious expression by political leaders.

According to Pew, "[t]he number saying there has been too much religious talk from political leaders now stands at its highest point since the Pew Research Center began asking the question more than a decade ago."

The survey even found that there has been an increase in this sentiment across party lines.

The biggest spike came from people who identify as Democrats, 46 percent of whom said politicians talk too much about faith (up from 32 percent in 2010). Dissatisfaction is also growing among people who identify as Republicans, 24 percent of whom said candidates spend too much time on religion. In 2001, only 8 percent of Republicans had the same gripe.

Among those who identify as Independent, a coveted demographic for both political parties, 42 percent said politicians talk too much about religion, a 6 percent increase from 2010. (In 2001, only 14 percent of Independents thought there was too much emphasis on religion.)

The Pew survey also asked respondents about how much involvement churches should have in politics. Sixty percent of Democrats, 58 percent of Independents and 44 percent of Republicans said churches should not be involved in politics.

(It should be noted, however, that respondents were asked if churches and other houses of worship "should stay out of political matters." The question shouldn't have been phrased that way, because there's a big difference between a church endorsing a candidate – which violates federal tax law — and a church discussing a national political issue, which does not.)

This survey is yet another example of how out of touch some politicians are with the electorate – and it's far from the only example. LifeWay Research, which is the research arm of the Southern Baptist Convention, found that just 16 percent of Americans are more likely to vote for a candidate who speaks regularly about his or her religious beliefs.

It's no secret that politicians work hard to stay "on message" during a campaign, but it's clear that some candidates have played the faith card too many times. The American public is tired of this broken record and wants to hear a new tune. Candidates should be discussing the myriad of problems facing this country, not how often they pray.

What people really want is a stable economy, more jobs and a better life for themselves and their families. Politicians who spend most of their time talking about how often they pray aren't doing much to deliver any of those things.

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Tuesday, 27 March 2012

Secular Café: NYC is stupid at times

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NYC is stupid at times
Mar 28th 2012, 00:33

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/03/...ardized-tests/


WTF? Let's stop kids learning about useful and appropriate things...


Quote:

NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) — George Carlin is rolling over in his grave.

The New York City Department of Education is waging a war on words of sorts, and is seeking to have words they deem upsetting removed from standardized tests.

Marla Diamond Talks To Walcott, Student About Banned Words

Fearing that certain words and topics can make students feel unpleasant, officials are requesting 50 or so words be removed from city-issued tests.

The word "dinosaur" made the hit list because dinosaurs suggest evolution which creationists might not like, WCBS 880′s Marla Diamond reported. "Halloween" is targeted because it suggests paganism; a "birthday" might not be happy to all because it isn't celebrated by Jehovah's Witnesses.

Julie Lewis' family celebrates Christmas and Kwanzaa, but she told CBS 2′s Emily Smith she wants her children to appreciate and learn about other holidays and celebrations.

"They're going to meet people from all walks of life and they're going to have to learn to adjust," Lewis said.

Words that suggest wealth are excluded because they could make kids jealous. "Poverty" is also on the forbidden list. That's something Sy Fliegal with the Center for Educational Innovation calls ridiculous.

"The Petersons take a vacation for five days in their Mercedes … so what? You think our kids are going to be offended because they don't have a Mercedes? You think our kids are going to say 'I'm offended; how could they ask me a question about a Mercedes? I don't have a Mercedes!'" Fliegal said.

In a throwback to "Footloose," the word "dancing" is also taboo. However, there is good news for kids that like "ballet": The city made an exception for this form of dance.

Also banned are references to "divorce" and "disease," because kids taking the tests may have relatives who split from spouses or are ill.

Some students think banning these words from periodic assessment tests is ridiculous.

"If you don't celebrate one thing you might have a friend that does it. So I don't see why people would find it offensive," Curtis High School Sophomore Jamella Lewis told Diamond.

Schools Chancellor Dennis Walcott said the DOE is simply giving guidance to the test developers.

"So we're not an outlier in being politically correct. This is just making sure that test makers are sensitive in the development of their tests," Walcott said Monday.

To which Fliegal responded: "It's all of life! I don't know how they figure out what not to put on the list. Every aspect of life is on the list."

There are banned words currently in school districts nationwide. Walcott said New York City's list is longer because its student body is so diverse.

Here is the complete list of words that could be banned:

Abuse (physical, sexual, emotional, or psychological)

Alcohol (beer and liquor), tobacco, or drugs

Birthday celebrations (and birthdays)

Bodily functions

Cancer (and other diseases)

Catastrophes/disasters (tsunamis and hurricanes)

Celebrities

Children dealing with serious issues

Cigarettes (and other smoking paraphernalia)

Computers in the home (acceptable in a school or library setting)

Crime

Death and disease

Divorce

Evolution

Expensive gifts, vacations, and prizes

Gambling involving money

Halloween

Homelessness

Homes with swimming pools

Hunting

Junk food

In-depth discussions of sports that require prior knowledge

Loss of employment

Nuclear weapons

Occult topics (i.e. fortune-telling)

Parapsychology

Politics

Pornography

Poverty

Rap Music

Religion

Religious holidays and festivals (including but not limited to Christmas, Yom Kippur, and Ramadan)

Rock-and-Roll music

Running away

Sex

Slavery

Terrorism

Television and video games (excessive use)

Traumatic material (including material that may be particularly upsetting such as animal shelters)

Vermin (rats and roaches)

Violence

War and bloodshed

Weapons (guns, knives, etc.)

Witchcraft, sorcery, etc.

What do you think about the banned words list? Let us know below

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Secular Café: Is it time for world intervention in Tibet?

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Is it time for world intervention in Tibet?
Mar 27th 2012, 11:32

Quote:

China blames Dalai Lama for self-immolations after Tibetan sets himself on fire in India

By Associated Press, Updated: Tuesday, March 27, 4:13 AM

BEIJING — China on Tuesday accused the Dalai Lama of being behind a self-immolation protest by a Tibetan exile in India days before a visit by the Chinese president.

Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Hong Lei offered no evidence linking the Tibetan spiritual leader to the exile who lit himself on fire and ran shouting through a demonstration in the Indian capital, New Delhi, on Monday.

He said that the Dalai Lama and his associates have been instigating Tibetan independence and creating “disturbances” and that showed the Dalai Lama and his associates “single-handedly” planned the immolation on Monday.

“These acts aimed at achieving Tibetan independence and separatism through taking people’s lives will never possibly be successful and will be severely condemned by the international community,” Hong told reporters at a regular news briefing.

About 30 such protests have occurred over the past year in ethnic Tibetan areas of China, and a Tibetan self-immolated last year in India, where many exiles reside.

The Tibetan self-declared government-in-exile has rejected the Chinese government’s accusations and issued statements discouraging self-immolation.

“In the long-term interest of the Tibetan cause, we urge Tibetans to focus on secular and monastic education to provide the necessary human resources and the capability to strengthen and sustain our movement,” the group said in an emailed statement Tuesday. “We once again remind Tibetans to refrain from drastic actions.”

Tibetans inside China and exiles say China’s crackdown on Tibetan regions is so oppressive, those who choose such a horrific form of protest feel they have no other way to express their beliefs.

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...gdS_story.html

Dalai Lama would welcome investigations: http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2012/...ogle_news_blog

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Monday, 26 March 2012

Secular Café: Santorum on Pr0n

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Santorum on Pr0n
Mar 27th 2012, 03:31



Oh, shut the fuck up and go rent a few hours of gay porn and fap yourself to death you frothy mix. You COULDN'T do this. It would be unconstitutional and anyway congress likely wouldn't approve, or do you think the president rules by decree? Dumbass.
:dunno:
:bang:
:mad:

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